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president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that created surpluses in the latter half of the clinton presidency. it's a more complicated picture. definitely there are folks who want tax increases but let's not gloss over president obama is talking about way higher taxes than we saw during the clinton era on the high earners. >> that's true. all right. want to talk about a party going on tonight. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to
president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that...
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even bill clinton agrees. here's what he said at a conference i saw him at back in may. >> i think you could tax me at 100% and you wouldn't balance the budget. we're all going to have to contribute to this and if middle class people's wages were going up again and we had some growth in the economy, i don't think they would object to going back to the tax rates. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james lankford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. appreciate you're taking the time. what about this idea of racing taxes on everyone? the math works much better. >> i heard your lead in when you said this is a new idea. actually, it's not a new idea, there are several democrats who have floated that for a while. the code word is we want to go back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy that we had a much more vigorous econ
even bill clinton agrees. here's what he said at a conference i saw him at back in may. >> i think you could tax me at 100% and you wouldn't balance the budget. we're all going to have to contribute to this and if middle class people's wages were going up again and we had some growth in the economy, i don't think they would object to going back to the tax rates. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting point? "outfront" republican...
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according to "the new york times," blook called clinton to encourage her to run for mayor in 2013. the call reportedly took place months ago and hillary said thanks but no thanks. this comes as a recent headline from the new yorker editor david riddick declared hillary is running. he reads that conclusion after witnessing secretary clinton as a main speaker at a conference in washington this weekend where he says a slickly produced film on her political career ran like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus. >> okay. new jersey governor chris christie is asking for 100% reimbursement from the federal government for the costs of emergency response the state faced in the wake of hurricane sandy. christie said in a letter to fema that the economic damage in his state could top $40 billion. he also plans to couple to washington to press his case later this week. both christie and new york governor andrew cuomo are asking for full compensation for their state's efforts. the white house is also expected to ask for more money. >>> and just one month after th
according to "the new york times," blook called clinton to encourage her to run for mayor in 2013. the call reportedly took place months ago and hillary said thanks but no thanks. this comes as a recent headline from the new yorker editor david riddick declared hillary is running. he reads that conclusion after witnessing secretary clinton as a main speaker at a conference in washington this weekend where he says a slickly produced film on her political career ran like an...
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mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he posted it on his facebook. and she's in fact in that letter encouraging him to keep on fighting in the political website, saying that is new for clinton. do you think she's building support for a presidential campaign? >> i don't think she's building support to go on a nice long vacation. >> jennifer: i totally agree. >> which is probably what she's going to do, take a break while her team puts everything together. it's smart politics congratulating, and offering condolences to anyone who lost. i think it's pretty normal. i think it's usual that a candidate would put it up for the world to see but i think it's a smart t
mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he...
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just let the top rates go back to clinton era levels. i don't like it. you don't like it. but it beats the budget terry oops you are going through right now to raise the same amount of dough. limiting the writeoffs and opening the can of worms is not worth it. less hassle and less revenue overall. if you raise the rates now and save the big foit for a -- the big fight for a conflict. and quit saying entitlements are off the table. curbing the growth is not the same as throwing granny off the cliff. get off your high horse and talking points and get this. republicans just gave you revenues. return the offer. give them a spending road map. if they are going to raise the top rate close to 5% i say you slice the growth in entitlement spending by 2% now and more later. both parties agree to keep growth in all government spending. all of it to no more than 2% a year half the rate at which it is spiraling out of control. super hero fix six, slowly rage the eligibility from 65 to 67 exempting those who are 58 or older now to allow for this adjustment to be slowly worked in. nancy
just let the top rates go back to clinton era levels. i don't like it. you don't like it. but it beats the budget terry oops you are going through right now to raise the same amount of dough. limiting the writeoffs and opening the can of worms is not worth it. less hassle and less revenue overall. if you raise the rates now and save the big foit for a -- the big fight for a conflict. and quit saying entitlements are off the table. curbing the growth is not the same as throwing granny off the...
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. >> james, you are super, but if you give the democrats the great clinton tax rates you have to get the spending rate to g.d.p. at the same time. >> you are right. we will see. >> ruth from tell. >> i am in agreement with the fiscal cliff, you are my hero. we. >> robert, e-mail, perfect solution, again you nailed it, neil. >> jay from arizona, to the super hero i am glad someone is coming to the aid of the country. if you want do be a super hero you may want to turn your tall ends to educate the people on economics of country. >> that is what i do as a mortal on this follow show and on fox business network each day, jay every day, without a super her overoutfit. >> and i often watch with my dad and i think you are funny but i wonder, was he an odd kid? you seem like you would have done some odd things? >> well, if you call always worrying about the planet trying to say that the odds, well, guilty. >> kathy from hotmail, i love you, not in a romantic we because you saw it as it is. why not run for budget? i was too busy being a super hero, leaving mere mortals to lead. >> from north
. >> james, you are super, but if you give the democrats the great clinton tax rates you have to get the spending rate to g.d.p. at the same time. >> you are right. we will see. >> ruth from tell. >> i am in agreement with the fiscal cliff, you are my hero. we. >> robert, e-mail, perfect solution, again you nailed it, neil. >> jay from arizona, to the super hero i am glad someone is coming to the aid of the country. if you want do be a super hero you may want...
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then they create this this thing it was because bowles was never elected to anything he was just a clinton staffer fact he got knocked down twice and twice he was defeated i don't know why these guys represent anybody but anyhow they said panetta burns because leon panetta used to be a clinton staffer and burns was a republican senator westerners a republican senator so they said well what do you think of the panetta burns strategy twenty five percent of americans support that thirty nine percent support simpson bowles doesn't this tell us something about the whole lane and americans are and how they want to agree with that nice fellow who's asking the question you think you think that was i want to look smart i think if the issue is that they want to look smart they want to look like they're in the know yes i can remember going there is nothing about this a lot of people are busy raising kids watching t.v. working and they want to participate in politics and they go no i can't agree with you and as a result of thirty five years or greater nomics both people the family are working they're
then they create this this thing it was because bowles was never elected to anything he was just a clinton staffer fact he got knocked down twice and twice he was defeated i don't know why these guys represent anybody but anyhow they said panetta burns because leon panetta used to be a clinton staffer and burns was a republican senator westerners a republican senator so they said well what do you think of the panetta burns strategy twenty five percent of americans support that thirty nine...
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. >> hillary clinton today saying she was doing a great job. >> absolutely. i cannot remember the expression . protests and egypt continue for a six the day. lou: and still in power showing no sign, at least obvious sign that he is goingo weaken and allow his new-found powers to dissipate separately. what is your reaction? >> my reaction is that he drew conclusion that i think a normal human being would draw from hillary clinton and president obama's warm endorsement of his mediation role and he gaza is real conflict. it is amazing tome that even though they have criticized him their restraint in that criticism is real remarkable. because what the president did was throw down the gauntlet ii st., i am ferrule. their response has been lukewarm understandably because we do have larger fish to fry, like the peace with egypt and israel and we don't wwnt egypt to become syria or chaotic. still, what he did was amazing. >> she w brilliant. he negotiated this deal between israel and tomas. within 24 hours a declared himself anew that he had the uned states under a b
. >> hillary clinton today saying she was doing a great job. >> absolutely. i cannot remember the expression . protests and egypt continue for a six the day. lou: and still in power showing no sign, at least obvious sign that he is goingo weaken and allow his new-found powers to dissipate separately. what is your reaction? >> my reaction is that he drew conclusion that i think a normal human being would draw from hillary clinton and president obama's warm endorsement of his...
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try to do something a little bit more mainstream with a little bit more broad appeal, a la hillary clinton in her first couple of months up here on capitol hill. they don't expect her to focus entire loin the consumer financial protection bureau, for example. they think she would like a larger beach head on capitol hill and i think that is where this is going. >> thank you very much. take it down to sue at the nyse. >> i have kenny poll carry, independent trader at the nyse with me. you made a note in your morning note that we are stuck this in range until we get progress. >> look where we are, between 1400 on the downside you can and 1420 the upside. today, done absolutely nothing, at 1404, 1406 all day, not a lot of action, not a lot of activity at all. people just in this wait and see mode, right? more chatter out of washington. i think a lot of people expecting the interview with the president, hear what he had to same the market got weaker after spoke. >> down 18 point on the trading session now the volume disturbing now, because there is none. >> that just tells that you investors ar
try to do something a little bit more mainstream with a little bit more broad appeal, a la hillary clinton in her first couple of months up here on capitol hill. they don't expect her to focus entire loin the consumer financial protection bureau, for example. they think she would like a larger beach head on capitol hill and i think that is where this is going. >> thank you very much. take it down to sue at the nyse. >> i have kenny poll carry, independent trader at the nyse with me....
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially you
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this...
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the president's been very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot take a rate increase to his caucus unless it is accompanied by some signal of real entitlement cuts. something that they do now and give a down payment on for the future. i don't think you get -- could get rates through unless the president gave a little bit. and if you look at the document from the grand bargain back in july of 2011, the president was willing to give on that. so we'll have to see if they can get back to that. but again, has to be one significant item that they know they'll be able to build upon in the future. an item from both sides. >> neither side's going to be thrilled. but they've got to compromise. >> that's the way life usually works, doesn't it? >> certainly does. thank you. >>> meanwhile, huge announcement today on capitol hill. the con
the president's been very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot take a rate increase to his caucus unless it is accompanied by some signal of real entitlement cuts. something that they do now and give a down payment on for the future. i...
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. >> ford is your we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of friends that clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to a slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. gerri: earlier i asked republican senator richard shelby of alabama for his take on the comments from boehner. >> i believe that speaker boehner is on the right track. the president has not come uptown now, been deeply involved, that we know about , in any of these offers are counteroffers. dealers said he has been campaigning to meet. but he has to get involved if he wants to avoid the fiscal cliff. i think that the speaker has indicated that he will try to engage in, try to meet him and try to avoid the fiscal cleft that the presiient is going to continue to say it is my way or the highway, that is another game. gerri: it is. harry reid today saying that the game is at chess game, and the republicans are the jets. here is harry reid. >> he has a problem. he has three
. >> ford is your we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of friends that clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to a slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. gerri: earlier i asked republican senator richard shelby of alabama for his take on the comments from boehner. >> i believe that speaker boehner is on the right...
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the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows 57% would vote for clinton in a 2016 presidential bid. >>> turning now to news overseas. all eyes are on two tense situations developing by the hour that could have serious implications for the united states. in syria, with the assad regime growing increasingly desperate, intelligence reports indicate that a chemical attack against his own people could be imminent. even russia, syria's most powerful ally, is alarmed. their foreign minister met yesterday with secretary clinton, discussing the possibility of a syria without assad in power. this morning, rebels have declared damascus's airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. >>> and in egypt, tanks and barbed wire barricades returned to the streets of cairo as deadly protests raged outside the presidential palace. egyptian president mohamed morsi is calling for a national dialogue but is resolute about his controversial constitution. nbc's ayman mohyeldin is joining us live from cairo monitoring the situation. let's start with egypt. how much more troub
the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows 57% would vote for clinton in a 2016 presidential bid. >>> turning now to news overseas. all eyes are on two tense situations developing by the hour that could have serious implications for the united states. in syria, with the assad regime growing increasingly desperate, intelligence reports indicate that a chemical attack against his own people could be imminent. even russia, syria's most powerful ally, is alarmed. their...
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what i'm not hearing from the president or either from secretary clinton or tony blair is, you know, they talk about the if. what then? any possible scenarios, possible action, i'm not hearing concrete scenarios, are you? >> well, you're not, brooke. i think for a very good reason. they want to stop this before it gets to that. nobody wants to have to strike at syrian chemical weapons plants. if you think about it logically, it is a very tough target. you have to know exactly where it is. you have to strike that hard enough to virtually incinerate all the chemical or biological material there before it escapes into the atmosphere. if those chemical weapons started to go on the move, in artillery shells or bombs, could you chase them all down? and, of course, in syria, much of this material is located or co-located in neighborhoods and towns with civilian populations. so you're putting civilian populations at risk. i think that's why you're hearing the very tough language from washington to nato headquarters. everybody wants this stopped before it even happens, brooke. >> talking abou
what i'm not hearing from the president or either from secretary clinton or tony blair is, you know, they talk about the if. what then? any possible scenarios, possible action, i'm not hearing concrete scenarios, are you? >> well, you're not, brooke. i think for a very good reason. they want to stop this before it gets to that. nobody wants to have to strike at syrian chemical weapons plants. if you think about it logically, it is a very tough target. you have to know exactly where it is....
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saying, point-blank, they do want a two-step process for tax reform, raise the rates on the top 2% to clinton levels now and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the future and maybe everybody could lower the rates for everyone during that time. >> dana, how much of this do you think is just public posturing and kind of bloviating on partisan cable channels? it does seem like there's a lot of that going on. >> reporter: so much of that is public posturing and bloviating. but i think the difference between now and what we've seen in past high-stakes negotiations like this, you have the public posturing, the bloviating and the, okay, guys, let's roll up our sleeves and talk about what's really going on. by all accounts, that's not happening right now. just like you said, the fact you said it's news the president and speaker had their first phone conversation which got nowhere in a week is really amazing. and it speaks to the lack of the real conversations going on behind the scenes. i will say that, you know, back to what david and jessica were saying, david particularly, about the
saying, point-blank, they do want a two-step process for tax reform, raise the rates on the top 2% to clinton levels now and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the future and maybe everybody could lower the rates for everyone during that time. >> dana, how much of this do you think is just public posturing and kind of bloviating on partisan cable channels? it does seem like there's a lot of that going on. >> reporter: so much of that is public posturing and...
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint the age of the grand canyon. but first, this is pledge week on pbs. this break allows your public television station to ask for your support. >> warner: finally tonight, just how old is the grand canyon? the conventional wisdom holds that this natural wonder of the world was shaped by the colorado about five or six million years ago. but there's been a long-running debate over whether it's much older. yesterday, researchers published a study in the journal "science," arguing these majestic formations were formed by two much older rivers cutting through the landscape some 70 million years ag
i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint...
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>> she reported to us that secretary clinton was tired. i understand why secretary clinton might be tired, but that's still, the president himself said that ambassador rice had nothing to do with benghazi. and again, just a short time ago as our meeting, the director of the cia told us that the changes in these talking points had come from the fbi, and then called us back a number of hours later and said, no, it was done by the cia. do you mean that all these weeks later they still don't know who made the changes in the talking points? and why is that important? because the impression that the american people got from ambassador rice's comments, that this was a spontaneous demonstration, triggered by a hateful video, that was not true. finally, by the way, after our meeting, ambassador rice admitted for the first time that that was not true. so it -- >> greta: why didn't she admit that six weeks ago? that's what i don't understand. you have to pull every single detail out of it. she should have said that six weeks ago. why not say it publi
>> she reported to us that secretary clinton was tired. i understand why secretary clinton might be tired, but that's still, the president himself said that ambassador rice had nothing to do with benghazi. and again, just a short time ago as our meeting, the director of the cia told us that the changes in these talking points had come from the fbi, and then called us back a number of hours later and said, no, it was done by the cia. do you mean that all these weeks later they still don't...
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secretary of state hillary clinton says that the u.s. stands by the syrian people and not president assad. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> meanwhile, senator john mccain has said that the u.s. needs to take action. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar assad's aircraft. we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> joining me now, joel ruben. thank you for joining me. have they already crossed the red line that the president put out for intervention? should the u.s. intervene, as senator mccain is asking for? >> the situation in syria is something we've never seen before. we have a country collapsing and this country has significant weapons of mass destruction. syria has not signed a chemical weapons convention. they have not, however, moved to use thes
secretary of state hillary clinton says that the u.s. stands by the syrian people and not president assad. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> meanwhile, senator john mccain has said that the u.s. needs to take action. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by...
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. >>> earlier today secretary of state hillary clinton said farewell to nato allies during a visit to brussels. as she contemplates the future, she may well be encouraged by a new washington post poll. asked if they would vote for her if she ran for president in 2016, 57% said yes while 37% said no. joining us is our white house correspondent kristen welker. we found out the editor of "the new yorker" said hillary clinton would run in 2016 and dustin hoffman would support her if she ran but what chatter are you hearing around the white house about that? >> reporter: democratic sources tell me the secretary of state just hasn't decided yet. she's still in the process of mulling over this decision. having said that, they also tell me that the political operation is doing what they need to do to preserve the right to run if that's what she decides to do in 2016. that's playing out behind the scenes. publicly we've seen this unfold for quite some time. her president, former president bill clinton, was president obama's key surrogate during this election cycle, setting the stage for presid
. >>> earlier today secretary of state hillary clinton said farewell to nato allies during a visit to brussels. as she contemplates the future, she may well be encouraged by a new washington post poll. asked if they would vote for her if she ran for president in 2016, 57% said yes while 37% said no. joining us is our white house correspondent kristen welker. we found out the editor of "the new yorker" said hillary clinton would run in 2016 and dustin hoffman would support her...
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i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint the age of the grand canyon. but first, this is pledge week on pbs. this break allows your public television station to ask for your support. and that support helps keep programs like ours on the air. >> brown: for those stations not taking a pledge break, we take an encore look at president abraham lincoln and his evolving legacy in politics and culture. earlier this year, hari sreenivasan toured the ford's theatre center for education and leadership in washington, d.c., with historian richard norton smith. >> sreenivasan: walking into the theater center is like taking a step back in time
i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint...
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president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's n
president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given...
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. >>> hillary clinton says the government is still figuring out how to handle washington state and colorado legalizing marijuana. >> i respect those in the region who believe strongly that that would end the problem. i am not convinced of that, just speaking personally. i think when you've got ruthless, vicious people who have made money one way, if it's somehow blocked, they'll figure out another way. they'll do kidnapping. they'll do extortion. >>> not entirely surprising, a bunch of lawmakers are leaving congress to be lobbyist. heath schuler will work for duke energy, jason altmire will become part of florida blue, and geoff davis is forming his own public affairs firm. >>> and here is the must-see video of the day. yes, that's bo, the white house releasing these shots of the first dog checking out all the holiday decorations including a replica of him. you can watch the whole thing on our facebook page. >>> and if you read only one thing this morning, now, i haven't seen it, but apparently there's this reality show about a couple of guys in california who carve impressive sculptures ou
. >>> hillary clinton says the government is still figuring out how to handle washington state and colorado legalizing marijuana. >> i respect those in the region who believe strongly that that would end the problem. i am not convinced of that, just speaking personally. i think when you've got ruthless, vicious people who have made money one way, if it's somehow blocked, they'll figure out another way. they'll do kidnapping. they'll do extortion. >>> not entirely...
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outside of the framework of negotiations. >> secretary of state clinton and other u.s. officials have repeatedly made that argument to that palestinian counterparts. >> the palestinians and much of the rest are of the world makes a different argument. >> yeah, what they argue, the palestinians and what has persuaded a lot of western nations. security council members france, china and russia is the idea that by pursuing this vote they will strengthen the hands of the nod democrat palestinian president mahmoud abbas against the more militant hamas which saw its popularity rise in the wake of that recent conflict in gaza. the palestinian officials for their parts mean they are not looking for a fight here. they are simply trying to advance the cause of peace. listen. we are here to reinstate the two state solution and this we will do tomorrow afternoon. >> and that vote will take place around 3:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow afternoon on what the u.n. named several years ago international palestinian solidarity day. shep. >> shepard: jonathan hunt at the united nations death com
outside of the framework of negotiations. >> secretary of state clinton and other u.s. officials have repeatedly made that argument to that palestinian counterparts. >> the palestinians and much of the rest are of the world makes a different argument. >> yeah, what they argue, the palestinians and what has persuaded a lot of western nations. security council members france, china and russia is the idea that by pursuing this vote they will strengthen the hands of the nod...
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we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i think tom colts
we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight...
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some people are painting this as a tea party against the clintons in mcauliffe. things can still happen. it looks like a fascinating race. >> chris, as you know, political reporters, we only have two gubernatorial races to cover. we give a lot of attention to virginia and new jersey. what's fascinating about virginia, since i've been covering politics on the national stage, the off-year election has proved to be a template if that party that's out of power wins. 2005, tim kaine ends up running a race, appealing to independents, sfresing his religious faith. actually kind of having a very soft appeal to a lot of folks. he's adopted that 2006 and 2008. a lot of the ideas barack obama ran on in 2008 was tim cane. >> he endorsed him for president, just as a sidebar. >> mcdonnell was focused like a laser on the economy. what did we see republicans do? focus on the economy. try to turn social issues away. he was very successful in 2005. house republicans and senate republicans successful. mitt romney not so much in 2012. that's why virginia does matter. >> testing grou
some people are painting this as a tea party against the clintons in mcauliffe. things can still happen. it looks like a fascinating race. >> chris, as you know, political reporters, we only have two gubernatorial races to cover. we give a lot of attention to virginia and new jersey. what's fascinating about virginia, since i've been covering politics on the national stage, the off-year election has proved to be a template if that party that's out of power wins. 2005, tim kaine ends up...
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, that i could go back to knot the use of the filibuster, but other methods of obstruction with the clintons who reached out all the time. so i think that is a factor, but a minor one. i think harry reid use of filling the amendment tree and partly this is chicken and egg, but it's been done too much and that did result in at least some protest and willingness some senators on his side who might not otherwise join in some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which is really the first time we've seen it. >> i think there's two separate issues. one obstruction on nomination in two, obstruction on the legislative side. on the nomination cited is true you see these judge those conoco 99 to one. i think it's important to remember what we are talking about. the alternative is to move it by unanimous consent. this is not like the house where there's about. if a member of checks to unanimous consent because they do not want to vote or be forced to vote for a judge within the main support, they say i will have a roll call. the majority leader at t
, that i could go back to knot the use of the filibuster, but other methods of obstruction with the clintons who reached out all the time. so i think that is a factor, but a minor one. i think harry reid use of filling the amendment tree and partly this is chicken and egg, but it's been done too much and that did result in at least some protest and willingness some senators on his side who might not otherwise join in some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a...
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letting the rich go up to the sum of aware for the clinton cabinet permission. republicans know where we stand. we have said it so many times. it has been at least two weeks since met at the warehouse. now is the time for republicans to move past the happy talk. to put specifics of the table. the president made his proposal. we need a proposal from him. the rest of the glove there are a reasonable republicans britain from the pack. do members have said this and sang it. they should bring to the floor of the house the bill does pass over here would pass a center of the press today. the house republicans, if it would simply allow a vote. we're not going to kick the can down the road. we will finalize this this year. the american people want us to avoid the fiscal cliff with a balanced approach the average middle-class family looking at a tax increase of $2,200 looking in january 1. we will not let that happen. if that happens will be under the leadership of john boehner. we will protect the middle- class. to force a balanced agreement we need republicans to come f
letting the rich go up to the sum of aware for the clinton cabinet permission. republicans know where we stand. we have said it so many times. it has been at least two weeks since met at the warehouse. now is the time for republicans to move past the happy talk. to put specifics of the table. the president made his proposal. we need a proposal from him. the rest of the glove there are a reasonable republicans britain from the pack. do members have said this and sang it. they should bring to the...
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there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area where they do agree. russia is very much opposed to any type of use of chemical weapons and in fact secretary clinton thanked him for speaking about that which she did in brussels just yesterday, talking about that. although, brooke, you know, you have to say that the russians next breath say that they have raised that issue, in fact, with bashar al assad. the president of syria. and he assures them that there's no use intended and it is not a problem and, so, you kind of have two messages coming from the russians but you would have to say they're very much opposed to that and a lot of concern. >> so do they then -- do the russians believe assad when he assures them that he won't? and, are there new sign that is the russians might be waivering in their support of assad? >> reporter: you know, it's thoohard to say whether they believe it. you have to say at least on the surface they're saying we are taking him at his word that he w
there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area where they do agree. russia is very much opposed to any type of use of chemical weapons and in fact secretary clinton thanked him for speaking about that which she did in brussels just yesterday, talking about that. although, brooke, you know, you have to say that the russians next breath say that they have raised that issue, in fact, with bashar al assad....
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i know how we felt when clinton released these guys, and i can see this happening again. we have to, we have to stop it now because if we don't, a slippery slope. it will slowly gain momentum, and you'll see in the next four years they'll be released. megyn: joe connor, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me, megyn. merry christmas. megyn: and to you. >> thank you. megyn: new support for a plan that could save billions of dollars for u.s. taxpayers, but it would get rid of the dollar bill. up next, could the dollar bill be going away, and what would that mean if it does? >>> and as treasury secretary tim geithner meets with congressional leaders ability the fiscal cliff, house speaker john boehner says there's no progress to report. so what now? we'll have a fair and balanced debate just ahead. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. ♪ megyn: well, some good news for new yorkers, and this we're told may be a first. the new york daily news reports that no shootings, stabbin
i know how we felt when clinton released these guys, and i can see this happening again. we have to, we have to stop it now because if we don't, a slippery slope. it will slowly gain momentum, and you'll see in the next four years they'll be released. megyn: joe connor, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me, megyn. merry christmas. megyn: and to you. >> thank you. megyn: new support for a plan that could save billions of dollars for u.s. taxpayers, but it...
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letting the rates go up to the same level they were during the clinton administration. republicans know where we stand. we've said it. we've said it. we've said it so many times. the president said the same thing. it's been weeks, at least two weeks, since we met at the white house. we're still waiting for a serious offer from the republicans. really, now is the time for the republicans to move past this happy talk about revenues, ill-defined, of course, and put specifics on the table. the president has made his proposal. we need a proposal from them. i'm glad to see there are some reasonable republicans breaking from the pack. veteran representative cole and a new member, scott from south carolina, have said basically the same thing. and that is, they should bring to the floor of the house the bill that's passed over here. it would pass overwhelmingly, as scott said in the press today. our bill would pass in a matter of minutes if the house republicans simply allowed a vote. we're not going to kick the can down the road. we're going to finalize this this year. this is
letting the rates go up to the same level they were during the clinton administration. republicans know where we stand. we've said it. we've said it. we've said it so many times. the president said the same thing. it's been weeks, at least two weeks, since we met at the white house. we're still waiting for a serious offer from the republicans. really, now is the time for the republicans to move past this happy talk about revenues, ill-defined, of course, and put specifics on the table. the...
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japan and china are having to square off about five uninhabited islands, and hillary clinton just received a confidential report that involves steve hadley, joe nye, and another one i can't quite recall for a moment, who said this could slip into a war. this could slip in the hot conflict. we need to be prepared under article v of the peace treaty, the united states is obligated not necessarily to run to japan's defense but to consult with japan. now have to decide what consultants in particular. but you have had enough time. china is boycotting japan and form across a lot of sectors. i'd love to get a sense of what you think china's game plan is both regionally and internationally. japan has been, you've been there right next to china for a long time and you've been poking each other back and forth for a long time. to let me teach her quick snapshot issue of how you seek china's direction. >> i think this is, i think this is not a short time phenomenon. from the viewpoint, china on the island, diplomatic issue, this program with china, they started to claim the island in 1971 after the un
japan and china are having to square off about five uninhabited islands, and hillary clinton just received a confidential report that involves steve hadley, joe nye, and another one i can't quite recall for a moment, who said this could slip into a war. this could slip in the hot conflict. we need to be prepared under article v of the peace treaty, the united states is obligated not necessarily to run to japan's defense but to consult with japan. now have to decide what consultants in...
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you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria indeed, which is saying it's not going to do, uses the weapons out of desperation, because here you have some rebel strongholds that is not bowing to the syrian regime, despite the fact that it is repeatedly conventionally bombed. when you reach a level where there is desperation for a regime that feels everything around it is crumbling, the question is what will it use in order to try in some desperate last ditch measure to protect itself. that is the concern. the u.s. has always said this is a concern because it is not just within the borders of syria, that it
you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria...
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we would have no collective debt at all if we had left in place the clinton budgetary strategy. megyn: what do you make of that quote. >> what i'm responding to is i think what we are dealing with is a tell poar a temporal thing. it would drive the markets down and create say could and uncertainty. the president is saying we can't go through that again. megyn: he's wanting not only to raise it but to have uniform authority to raise. a fewer years ago they were saying that was a failure of leadership. >> he may not get it but he's right to argue that way the republicans have been doing this has been irresponsible. let's get this done in the way our democracy has worked the for hundreds of years. not this new extraordinary thing. i think he's right to put pressure on the republicans. megyn: i thought it was the democrats trying to make this part of the deal to head off -- to stop us from going off the fiscal cliff. they said by the way we need to raise the debt limit and this new proposal of eliminating congress from the process of raising the debt limit. >> senator mcconnell has
we would have no collective debt at all if we had left in place the clinton budgetary strategy. megyn: what do you make of that quote. >> what i'm responding to is i think what we are dealing with is a tell poar a temporal thing. it would drive the markets down and create say could and uncertainty. the president is saying we can't go through that again. megyn: he's wanting not only to raise it but to have uniform authority to raise. a fewer years ago they were saying that was a failure of...
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going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking about, and negotiations could continue. doing what i'm talking about does not violate what either side is fighting over. they both say this is something we want to do. why not make sure we do not have some last-minute failure at the end of december. guest: what gives you confidence that democrats would agree later on? guest: this is where i disagree with some of my colleagues. they seem to think the american people are leveraged, and this is the democrats leverage. our leverage is in the spending and entitlement issues. the president and his negotiators are smart and able people. they know
going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking...